Paying Forward..............

2007-10-31 18:24:40

Hello everyone
I have waited for what seems like ages to talk about what we are
planning to do. But I think its like when one stops smoking tell
everyone around you and then you will simply have to make a success
of it! So here goes.
We had planned a road trip back up to Alaska and out west in our
motorhome at the end of July this year. Then came Christmas and our
motorhome burned when we were on the way to Florida Christmas
Day! Then right after we bought the new one, SPll, Steven, our 22
year old son, was diagnosed with CML.
And the learning curve began. I learned that Steven is able to live
because of other people that gave, donated and cared more than I
ever before imagined. He has a chance at a good and long life
because of the many, many people out there who went through the
trials, suffered through awful side effects, and supported family
and friends by enabling the research and development of the current
and amazing medications.
Never would I have dreamed that my son would have cancer. Never
would I have imagined that, having cancer, he would be able to take
a pill a day and be able to move on through his life with relatively
little change. So far. I never imagined that while having a child
with cancer, I could actually get a good night's sleep. I could
never have imagined my life actually improving, getting deeper,
because of the people I have met on this journey.
He can, I do and it is!
Now it's time for us to honor those that gave - gave of their time,
their effort and themselves. It's time for us to "Pay Forward" and
help to make more research and development possible. It is my time
to try and make a difference and it's time to say thank you to
everyone that has a hand in my son living!
A wonderful lady who has CML and ran in the Alaska half marathon
last year told of an amazing moment during the run when she saw
others on the Leukemia Team running towards her. She realized then
that it was those people that had helped her. This is the story
that really got us thinking. Thanks Gale! It's all of you out
there that have helped Steven - hopefully this way we can help too.
This way we can honor you who have given Steven a chance.
So. We are still going to Alaska at the end of July in the
motorhome. But this is not going to be just an ordinary `holiday'
anymore. It's going to be a cross country journey that will
hopefully raise a goodly amount of money for the Leukemia & Lymphoma
Society. We are going to paint/wrap the motorhome so that there is
no doubt that we are raising money for this cause
We are taking this public and will be aiming for donations as well
as pledges per mile, or any other type of donation that will help
the L&LS. The last two trips we did, we traveled about 15000 miles
each time and spent a total of two months on the road. We are
aiming for the same this year.
Now you know the plan. If anyone has any ideas please share... we
are totally open to any and all suggestions this is all very new
to us.
It is important that everyone understands that this is NOT a
fundraiser for Steven in any way shape or form. All funds will be
going directly to the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society.
I have put a blog site together about Steven and the links to what
will become the "Road Runners USA - Ride The Road for Cure" site are
on there: www.livingwithcml.blogspot.com
I have to say an enormous thank you to everyone who has shown such
tremendous caring on the boards I know that I would not have been
able to deal with this cancer in Steven had it not been for all the
caring, sharing and love coming from all of you. I hope that in
some way, this journey will give each of you something back.
Please feel free to email me directly if you have any ideas or
comments or anything that will help make this a raving success!
Love and Light
Annie

Andrea

2007-10-31 14:36:48

Hi, Andrea, I am also new to the group, but I've been reading along
for awhile - my daughter Laura is 19 and was diagnosed in Dec. 2005.
She is taking birth control pills, and it has been fine - we checked
with her Oncologist and she indicated that there are no problems. I
think it would be wise to check with your own onc or specialist, too,
though... Laura has some Gleevec side effects - she is also on 400mg
and is experiencing edema, some weight gain, and some tingling in her
hands and feet - also some diarrea (sp?) occasionally - Best of luck
with your wedding! I know it will make Laura feel better knowing that
another girl is able to go through with plans like that - she is
hopeful that someday she might be able to walk down the aisle, too,
someday... :) Don't hesitate to email me back if you want more
specific information.
regards, Debbie

Re: [cml 2] (unknown)

2007-10-31 12:40:08

I was diagnosed in August 2005 with CML and was told that I needed to get off
birth control pills as soon as I could. I stayed on them for about 4 months
after I was dianosed until my husband got "fixed" Mayo Clinic told me not to go
off of them until we were sure that he tested negative but once he did to get
off of them. I didn't feel any different when I was on them to when I wasn't.
Hope this helps!
Sheila
formiga95127 <andrea@...
Hi My name is Andrea and I am new to the group, I am 24 years old and
was DX in November of 2003 with CML and on 400mg of Gleevec. I will
be getting married in July and my doctor wants to put me on Birth
Control as a second birth control so that I dont get pregant. Is
anyone taking birth control and Gleevec? Are there any side affects?
Any advice would be great. Thanks
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Re: PZ) Novartis Delivers Strong Start to 2006 ......and what of the patients?

2007-10-31 03:22:09

Sounds like they are doing very well out of us! Any chance of a
reduction of the cost-to-patient do you think?
Gleevec in South Africa costs almost 3 times a good average monthly
salary - the options for some people are to die of starvation or to
die of CML. The problem is, if you choose the Gleevec - you take
your family with you! Hardly seems right does it?
I must admit that as I swallow my tablet every night, I do have a
twinge of guilt because the cost of that single tablet would cure 5
people with TB or feed a family of 4 for a month. I really hope I
am worth it!
If I say those words to friends or family they go nuts and tell me
that I must not be negative but I can't help thinking about it. I
have worked as a community Social worker for 25 years and I know
that there are millions of peopl in my country for whom the cost of
just 1 Gleevec tablet would profoundly change their lives.
I guess the mature thing to do is to make sure that I do something
with my life to make me worth the expenditure but I have to admit
that getting through the day awake feels like an achievment at the
moment.
Sorry - just had to vent and I know you guys will listen....thanks!

PZ) Novartis Delivers Strong Start to 2006 ......and what of the patients?

2007-10-31 02:56:36

Hopefully, having new drug choices offered by different drug companies will
eventually make a difference in the cost of these drugs. It will be
interesting to see what Bristol-Myers Squibb charges for BMS when it is
approved, most likely soon. If they want to steal some patients away from
Norvartis and Gleevec, they would price it lower than Gleevec! When Gleevec
was priced, there was no competition.......it was priced same as the usual
dose of interferon, and there was no comparison on tolerance and side
effects, and response........so Novartis won the market. And there are more
drugs in the pipeline.....so maybe some day we will see some price
competition.
Nancy

Re: CML and Kidneys

2007-10-30 13:53:11

Hi Kathy,
A Nephrologist is a kidney specialist so it's good to see one if you
have blood in your urine (hematuria).
I would think that it's your stone that's causing the blood but it
could also be a side effect of the Gleevec. Although it's listed as a
rare side effect, it does exist.
Gleevec has been known to increase the incidence of kidney cancer in
the rats who took it for several years but so far, an increase in
human cases hasn't been noticed. The experts recommend however, that
we get a urinalysis done every 6 months just to be sure.
Take care,
Tracey

Re: [cml 2] Digest Number 382

2007-10-30 11:23:36

Hey Group:
HMMMMMMMm. . . . me too, Amy. . . I NEVER have had a GOOD Side Effect. All my
new growth is 'white' and my natural color is much darker. I attribute it all to
my age and gene pool.
"K"
"I AIN'T FINISHED YET"!!!

CML and Kidneys

2007-10-30 07:27:25

I just got home from seeing my Urologist. I don't have an infection in
the kidneys (a small stone), bladder or anywhere else, but I do have
blood in my urine. He is sending me to see a Nephrologist. What does
a Nephrologist do, and could the leukemia be affecting my kidneys? If
I take a water pill, which lowers the potassium my kidneys work fine,
without it and I can't go more then 50 cc's all day. He's telling me
to not get too much protein in my system and yet with the gastric
bypass we are to get plenty of protein in our system. I am so
confussed these days, I don't know what to do. Kathy

PZ) Novartis Delivers Strong Start to 2006 in First Quarter with Excellent Sales and Earnings Growth Performance

2007-10-30 01:01:10

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/printstory.mpl/conws/3814384
Some highlights if you don't want to look at it.
-- Group first quarter net sales up 13% in USD (+17% in local
currencies) based on strong underlying sales expansion in all
divisions and positive acquisition impact
Gleevec/Glivec (USD 559 million, +18% lc), for patients with all stages
of Philadelphia-chromosome positive (Ph+) chronic myeloid leukemia (CML)
and for certain forms of gastro-intestinal stromal tumors (GIST), kept
delivering double-digit sales growth. Ongoing penetration of the CML and
GIST markets, an increase in the average daily dose and an increasing
number of patients thanks to improved survival have supported sales. US
and EU submissions for approval as a treatment for four rare types of
cancer have been completed.
AMN107 (nilotinib) remains on track for US and EU submission in early
2007. The Phase II registration study for Gleevec-resistant patients
achieved full enrollment in chronic phase Philadelphia-chromosome
positive (Ph+) chronic myeloid leukemia (CML) patients, with enrollment
in accelerated phase and blast crisis ongoing.
Zavie

Re: more on c-fms - Tracey

2007-10-29 20:13:36

He is on vacation in the U S Virgin Islands.....

Re: [cml 2] Speaking of Tanning - off to the Cayman's

2007-10-29 11:19:40

Cheryl-Anne,
Have a great time in the Cayman's. I was there 2 times about 8 years ago and
it was so much fun!! Have fun Scuba diving!!
Jennifer B
Cheryl-Anne Simoneau <cheryl.simoneau@...
Later on this evening I will be posting some information from the CBMTG
meeting this weekend, then I am off on a small vacation to SCUBA dive in the
Cayman's. Hope to meet up with Penny of this list.
I will put sun block on, but I am hopeful to get a little safe coloring to
my pale - ish skin!
Cheers,
Cheryl-Anne

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more on c-fms

2007-10-29 04:29:18

I'm close to being overwhelmed with medical jargon (ahh the memories
of the old days when I was first diagnosed and trying to understand
everything) but I came across another article that seems to show a
relationship beteween c-fms and cholesterol. It's very technical and
causing my head to hurt :) but I think this may explain why so many of
us have seen our cholesterol lowered while on Gleevec.
For anyone who is fresh and hungry for technical articles, here's the
link:
http://mcb.asm.org/cgi/reprint/16/5/2264.pdf#search='cfms%20inhibited'
Oh Richard, where for art thou dear Richard :)
Tracey

Speaking of Tanning - off to the Cayman's

2007-10-28 23:55:27

Later on this evening I will be posting some information from the CBMTG
meeting this weekend, then I am off on a small vacation to SCUBA dive in the
Cayman's. Hope to meet up with Penny of this list.
I will put sun block on, but I am hopeful to get a little safe coloring to
my pale - ish skin!
Cheers,
Cheryl-Anne

Re: [cml 2] Gleevec inhibits c-fms

2007-10-28 21:35:11

Hi Tracey,
I wonder what the important implications regarding potential side effects
from inhibiting c-fms are? if you have a chance, can you see what this
enzyme is important for. I am sure that there are other things that IM is
inhibiting that are unknown at this time....and might explain some of the
other side effects that some folks have.
Thanks for sharing your research.
Nancy C.

Gleevec inhibits c-fms

2007-10-28 15:03:43

I just found this abstract while surfing Pubmed. It seems that
Gleevec not only inhibits bcr/abl, c-kit and PDGF (which we always
knew), but now they've found that it also inhibits an enzyme called
c-fms which plays a role in breast cancer, ovarian cancer and
rheumatoid arthritis. Very interesting.
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?
cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15917650&query_hl=14&i
tool=pubmed_docsum
Inhibition of c-fms by imatinib: expanding the spectrum of treatment.
Dewar AL, Zannettino AC, Hughes TP, Lyons AB.
Division of Haematology, Hanson Institute, Institute of Medical and
Veterinary Science, Adelaide, South Australia.
andrea.dewar@...
Imatinib is a selective protein tyrosine kinase inhibitor currently
used in the treatment of chronic myeloid leukaemia (CML). It
specifically suppresses the growth of bcr-abl expressing CML
progenitor cells by blocking the ATP-binding site of the kinase
domain of bcr-abl. Imatinib also inhibits the c-abl, platelet
derived growth factor receptor (PDGFR), abl-related gene and stem
cell factor receptor, c-kit, protein tyrosine kinases. It is through
inhibition of c-kit that imatinib is also used clinically in the
treatment of gastrointestinal stromal tumours. We have recently
demonstrated that imatinib also specifically targets the macrophage
colony stimulating factor receptor, c-fms, at therapeutic
concentrations. Although this finding has important implications
with regard to potential side effects in patients currently
receiving imatinib therapy, these results suggest that imatinib may
also be useful in the treatment of diseases where c-fms is
implicated. This includes breast and ovarian cancer and inflammatory
conditions such as rheumatoid arthritis. We also speculate that
imatinib may be used in diseases where bone destruction occurs due
to excessive osteoclast activity, such as in the haematologic
malignancy, multiple myeloma.
PMID: 15917650 [PubMed - in process]

Surgery, Gleevec, and Amy

2007-10-28 08:24:59

Hi first let me say, I am excited for Amy getting to have her
surgery. I have low potassium levels because of my Gleevec. I am
also a lot older with multi health problems. For two years I was on
2 different water pills with 20 MEQ potassium. I never had a problem
with the potassium until I went on the Gleevec. I am not blaming the
surgeon or having the surgery to live a healthier life. I would do
it again if I had to. But my body is unable to fight the problem
with my potassium drops and the Gleevec isn't helping. Now they have
me on Magnezium/potassium, potassium K-lite that dissolves in water
to help keep me from dropping so low. I would still recommend the
gastric bypass, and I tell people about it everytime I see someone
who could benefit from it. I am thrilled I had the surgery. I get
my 3 month weigh-in done on Thursday. It's 2 weeks late, but being in
the hospital will make appointments be scheduled later.
I want Amy to experience the thrill that I have had just seeing the
pounds and inches disappear. She's been on Gleevec longer and she'll
be okay. I had only been on it for 4 months when I had the surgery.
Amy has my full support where this surgery is concerned. I am here
for her, I just wanted her to know that the Gleevec has been know to
drop potassium levels. It has nothing to do with heart problems. My
heart works great, but even without my having to take a water pill
ever so often, the potassium still can and does drop. But I know the
signs when it happens. I do get regular potassium panel blood work
every week just to be safe.
The last two days have been great. The only fluid I have at the
moment is in my left foot where an IV had to be put as my port wasn't
able to be accessed. My veins aren't strong enough to hold an IV
needle so it blew. But I have no weakness from the potassium
dropping. Everything is going good since being given magnezium. It
keeps the potassium from dropping.
Y'all have a great day. I'm off here to get ready for Knoxville. I
need to have my left Kidney checked. I have two stones that are just
sitting there. Always, Kathy

Re: [cml 2] Digest Number 381

2007-10-27 19:49:59

Hey Pam & Amy:
First of all, Pam, not only is our bug a cancer; but I feel that you are
adding insult to injury for melanoma or other skin cancers by tanning. Everyone
that I know who has any kind of cancer has been told to use sunscreen on their
body and also use makeups with sunscreen added daily. Maybe your Dr's know how
you feel about tanning and therefore they say its OK as some have to patients
who smoke and/or drink. Feeling that the frustration and stress that the patient
is subjected too will not do as much detriment as letting the patient continue
the adverse behavior.
Second, Amy, as I told you in my email. . . I have added Xtra special prayer
for you at this time. . . and you will be A-OK!!!
Remember each one of us is an individual and not a statistic. . . and I have
all in my prayers as always.
"K"
"I AIN'T FINISHED YET"!!!

tanning

2007-10-27 13:32:04

Hi Pam,
Good luck! Sure the doctor can say it's ok to tan on Gleevec, but that
doesn't mean it's going to happen. I am a former sun-worshipper. I love to
swim, sunbathe, go boating and any other outdoor activity.
I've been on Gleevec since Jan. 2004. I discovered that I need a much
stronger sunblock than ever before. I get a very slight tan, but without the
sunblock, I'd burn. I am a blonde (natural). I was fortunate to be blonde who
could also tan pretty darkly, also my hair always sunbleached out in the warm
weather. I'd go several shades lighter every summer. If we took a trip to
the Caribbean I'd come back platinum. Well-no more--bummer. Not only did my
skin refuse to get dark, my hair refused to get light! What happened? The
only thing different is Gleevec.
I'm not happy about it, but I'm happy to be alive. I wish I could be the
same as before. I decided to supplement my weak little tan with a self-tanner.
Guess what? Nobody noticed that I wasn't tanning! I decided to supplement
my now darker hair with highlights from the salon, nobody noticed that it
wasn't natural. I guess that's the way to go for now, until a better drug
comes along! At first I was devastated by not being "normal", but I'm over it,
living each day to the fullest and enjoying the life that I now have even
though it is somewhat different than before.
So, I guess my message is to beware of suntanning, don't burn. See what
happens.
Nancy in NY

Re: tanning

2007-10-27 10:48:28

Hi Nancy,
I don't know the reason behind it but I remember a study done years
ago that showed some people who had grey hair, had their hair return
to its previous darker colour after taking Gleevec.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2180244.stm
It's funny that our skin turns whiter but our hair turns darker, go
figure.
Take care,
Tracey

more on tanning

2007-10-27 01:28:54

Copied and pasted from http://www.cancer.org.au/content.cfm?
randid=960742
"While sunburn is linked to melanoma (the most deadly form of skin
cancer), regular sun exposure that doesn't result in burning still
causes skin damage and increases your risk of other types of skin
cancer. There is evidence that UV radiation causes cancer through a
cumulative process - the more your skin is exposed to the sun, even
without burning, the greater your risk of skin cancer. A suntan is a
sign that your skin has been exposed to too much UV radiation and
further exposure puts you at increased risk of skin cancer."
"A tan is not a sign of good health or wellbeing. It is a sign of
exposure to enough UV to damage the skin."
"Deliberate exposure to sunlight does not provide any health
benefits. Australians receive more than sufficient sunlight for
vitamin D production from just sitting near a window or by as little
as two minutes outside during the day."
"Everyone, regardless of skin colour, is at risk of skin cancer. In
Australia, sunburn can occur in as little as 15 minutes on a fine
Janurary day. (Roy et al, Health Effects of Ozone Layer Depletion:
1989)"

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2007-10-26 21:10:26

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Re: [cml 2] Tanning is an acquired injury to the DNA

2007-10-26 15:29:30

I think there isn't any problem with tanning if you wear a good protection
cream, a sunblock

Tanning is an acquired injury to the DNA

2007-10-26 14:06:24

Hi all!
I find this subject of "tanning" very interesting because I recently
saw a show about a "Tan Ban." They mentioned that tanning causes an
injury to our DNA and was was absolutely shocked to hear that
information since CML is also an "acquired injury to our DNA."
If you go to this site... they talk about it.
http://www.skincancer.org/artificial/index.php
I was a sun worshipper for years in So. Calif. and spent a huge
amount of time at the beach etc, in my younger years, soaking up the
sun.
I have since moved to a colder climate and do not tan anymore.(kids,
busy life, Gleevec puffy body that refuses to wear a swimsuit) I've
had CML for 2.5 years, and I cannot go in the sun anymore. 5 minutes
in the sun burns my face.
I have done such a 180 degree turn regarding tanning.
Sincerely, Lynn (Snickersunny)

Gleeved and tanning

2007-10-26 02:00:07

My onc said it is OK to tan on Gleevec. I have been on 400M for maybe
3 1/2 weeks with no severe side effects. What's opinion on tanning and
Gleevec? Also, how long on Gleevec before more severe side effects set
in?
Thanks,
Pam

Re: Gleeved and tanning

2007-10-26 01:21:03

Hi Pam,
You have to wonder about any doctor who is going to say that tanning
is ok in this day in age. It wouldn't be much different than a
doctor saying that smoking is ok.
Aside from the obvious reasons why tanning would not be recommended
(having one cancer is probably enough, why add a skin cancer to the
mix) there is another very good reason why we should avoid tanning
while on Gleevec.
Gleevec inhibits an enzyme called C-kit. C-kit plays a role in
melanine production which is what gives us our skin colour. When
normal people tan, the melanine production is increased (this is
what gives them that colour). Since Gleevec inhibits c-kit, you
can't make the same amount of melanine that you normally would have
and this can put you at an even higher risk of developing skin
cancer. If the risk of skin cancer isn't enough to deter you,
consider this, without melanine, you will not tan easily but burn
instead.
Most doctors recommend a high level SPF when in the sun and do NOT
recommend tanning.
You'll find over time, your skin will become more and more pale, all
due to the inhibition of the melanine production. I noticed it more
in my second and third year of Gleevec therapy but I've seen some
people notice it right away.
Take care,
Tracey

Re: Oncologist visits

2007-10-25 20:13:42

Hi Kathy,
Wow Kathy, no I don't think this is normal. Are you talking about
seeing your doctor or having blood tests or both? Some people only
have blood tests when they see their doctor but others go for blood
work independently of the doctor's visit.
If you're going so infrequently for blood tests, how do they know your
potassium is bottoming out so often? Are they testing your potassium
alone? Who's monitoring your electrolytes and how often? I would
think that in your case, you should be having a full electrolyte panel
done every week at least.
I went for blood every week when I was diagnosed for 2-3 months. Then
I started going every 2 weeks and after a couple of those intervals, I
moved to every 3 weeks then finally 4. After it had been close to a
year, I was going every 6 weeks which is where I am today (4.5 years
later). I wouldn't feel comfortable about waiting more than 6-8 weeks
between blood tests, not just because I want to monitor the white
count but also because I want to make sure my electrolytes are normal,
my Hgb is in a good range, and my kidney and liver function is good.
I can't imagine a doctor diagnosing a patient, giving them Gleevec and
saying come back in a month! That's crazy. Your counts could have
crashed in that time and you wouldn't have even known it.
Take care,
Tracey

Re: [cml 2] Oncologist visits

2007-10-25 06:48:41

I saw mine each week until I was in normal range and now once per month. I was
diagnosed in October.
Thanks,
Alicia
kitkat37708 <kitkat37708@...
Hi the first time I saw my Oncologist was in Sept. She put me on 400 mg
Gleevec, I saw her a month later and White cells went from 50,000 to
9000. I was to see her again 6 wks later and they were 6000. When I
saw her in February everything was still holding in the normal range,
so I don't see her again until the end of May. Is this considered
normal time frames to see an Oncologist? Kathy

Oncologist visits

2007-10-25 06:17:54

Hi the first time I saw my Oncologist was in Sept. She put me on 400 mg
Gleevec, I saw her a month later and White cells went from 50,000 to
9000. I was to see her again 6 wks later and they were 6000. When I
saw her in February everything was still holding in the normal range,
so I don't see her again until the end of May. Is this considered
normal time frames to see an Oncologist? Kathy

CML, Gastric Bypass and ME

2007-10-24 20:23:50

Hi everyone, I know that with all that has happend to Kathy there are
some concerns about my surgery. Let me first let you know I have
looked into and thought about all that has happend to Kathy and have
decided to have the surgery anyway. I have been on Gleevec for 3
years and have been stable the entire time, I do not have any heart
issues and do not take any diuretics. I understand the complications
and risks and have decided that the PROS are much greater in number
than the CONS. I will take my Gleevec, 100mg at a time with each
meal, to help with digestion of it, and try to alleviate some gastric
erosion, I will also include high Potassium foods into my diet. My
oncologist here and at MDACC are very educated in CML and Gleevec,
and I feel we can handle together anything that may arise. If
Gleevec stops absorbing as it should there is BMS and AMN that I can
look into. Standard Chemo I don't think would be the option. I have
surrounded myself with a fantastic support group and have all the
faith in the world that God will take care of me. If I make it
through and do great then WOOHOO I'll feel better for the additional
20 years Gleevec will give me, and if I do not and go to
Heaven.....well, I've heard amazing things about Heaven too! So it
is a win win situation. I really appreciate all your concern,
prayers, and support. I will have my friend Tess update you all and
let you know how things go post surgery. Feel free to message me if
you have any questions! I love you ALL!
Amy B.

Platelet count

2007-10-24 19:18:21

Hi sheila - My name is Mary and I was diagnosed in 2004 and at the time had over
3.5 million platelets - I had two seperate platelet therisis (sp) to bring them
down at which time I was only on Agrylin. My doctor was certain I had CML but
had not gotten the test results back. Once it was determined he had me start on
400 mg Gleevec and my counts continued to decrease and have stayed normal. I
have another BMB in May and this will determine if I have reached a CCR which I
have not yet. Be patient and stay with the Gleevec I am sure you will respond
more positively.
Tracey <traceyincanada@...
It takes some time for the platelets to come down. They aren't as
fast as the white cells so try to be patient.
There are other drugs available to control platelets if they
continue to be a problem (Agrylin). I know of at least one patient
who had ET (essential thrombocytosis) along with CML which made his
platelet count always high and had nothing to do with the CML being
controlled or not so this may be something for them to look into if
things persist.
I don't know who told you that people with CML have fibrosis in the
marrow because the vast majority of us do not. In the old days of
Interferon, marrow fibrosis was common and not a good thing but
that's no longer the case with Gleevec.
I believe that your riticulin fibers are increased simply because
your platelets are increased. I really don't think that's anything
significant at this point so try not to worry about it. This isn't
the same as marrow fibrosis.
Take care,
Tracey

Re: [cml 2] Prof. John Goldman - Montreal, May 24, 2006- Lunch &amp; Learn for CML Patients

2007-10-24 08:31:14

Good for you, Cheryl. I see Dr. Goldman as a patient every two months and have
also gone to one of his lectures. He's one of the grand old men of CML and at
present, as a visiting researcher at NIH, is really the only CML specialist in
the Washington, DC region. He can answer any of your questions about Gleevec
and Dasatinib plus other treatments and do so with patience and in interesting
ways.
'
For those who can make it to Montreal for this presentation, I urge you to go.
Susan Loewenkamp

Prof. John Goldman - Montreal, May 24, 2006- Lunch &amp; Learn for CML Patients

2007-10-24 08:15:22

Hello Fellow patients!
We have a very special announcement. Prof John Goldman
(formerly,Chairman of the department of Haematology at Hammersmith
hospital in the UK), Fogarty scholar, Hematology Branch, National
Heart, Lung and Blood Institute, NIH, Bethesda, Maryland will give a
special lecture to CML patients, their family memebers and supporters
in Montreal, Quebec Canada, on Wednesday May 24th, 2006.
Please save the date to join up with your fellow CML patients for
this very special Lunch & Learn. Please confirm your attendance via
e-mail directly to: cheryl.simoneau@... or
cheryl.simoneau@...
Prof Goldman will be very happy to speak to us about certain topics
that may be of particular interest to us. Please do not hesitate to
write to us and let us know which topics you would like him to speak
about.
I will be posting his bio at www.cmlsociety.org in the information
update discussion section highlighting details of his pioneering
research in CML and his latest projects.
More details to follow,
Best Regards,
Cheryl-Anne Simoneau

Canadian CML Guidelines

2007-10-23 18:39:12

Hello All,
The guidelines were presented today at the CBMTG meeting in Edmonton,
Alberta, Canada.
Please visit the discussion area of the CML Society website. Of
course, they will probably be updated shortly with the addition of
Sprycel!
www.cmlsociety.org
Cheers,
Cheryl-Anne

Canadian Blood and Marrow Meeting, Edmonton, Alberta Canada April 22 - 24

2007-10-23 15:38:10

Hello All,
Just a quick note to let you know I am spending the weekend in Edmonton
Alberta, Canada attending the above named conference.
Please check the website for the CML Society of Canada for live updates
on some of the sessions:
www.cmlsociety.org
The CML Society is attending the conference as an independent not for
profit organization.
Cheers,
Cheryl-Anne

Re: Platelet count

2007-10-23 09:47:24

sheila hoffman <sheilamonster13@...
that I'm hoping someone can help me with. I was diagnosed in August 2005 with
CML to make a long story short after about 3 weeks my white count and anc
crashed and I was taken off the drug for a few weeks then back on and off and so
forth. By December I ws so freaked out that I wasn't on the med that my local
doc had me taking 400 mgs every other day instead of every day. Well, my counts
started to go up but so did my platelets so he was concerned and wanted Mayo
clinic to do another bmb on me. I was scheduled to go to Mayo at the end of
March. So at the beginning of March I spoke with my Mayo doc over the phone to
find out that when I was first diagnosed that my cells were 98% leukemic and at
the end of September when they re did the FISH they were at 3.4%. So I had the
FISH re drawn and it showed that 28% of my cells were now leukemic. They
figured that is was because I wasn't on the
proper dose and that I wasn not to go off the gleevec for any reason if my anc
& white count crashed that they would give me a booster shot. Well, yesterday I
had to get the shot. My anc was 504 and my wc was 1.8 but my platelets went
from 549 to 739 (they were over a million when I was at Mayo). Mayo told me to
watch fro the platelets to come down that was a good sign that the med was
working. So my question is do you think that the med isn't working? I posted
on another site and got some feed back but I am just so freaked out and upset
again over this. Also I was told that CML people have fibrosis in the marrow
is this true? Becasue on my lab results it says Reticulin Fibers are increased,
grade 3+. How bad is this??
Sheila

Chat Reminder - Saturday 10:00 AM EST

2007-10-23 04:49:05

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Re: tests

2007-10-23 03:27:21

Hi again Kathy,
I can hear your dispare in your post and I wish I could do something
to help you.
As for the tests you ask about, you should be having regular CBC's.
How often, depends on your counts. Having a slightly low red count
is normal with Gleevec. If it gets REALLY low, then you can
consider red cell boosters such as Procrit. If your counts are more
or less stable, then a CBC every 4-6 weeks is the norm. If you have
very low counts or they aren't stable, you could be going as
regularly as every week.
You should also be getting liver and kidney function tests
regularly. Again, if you're stable, these can be done at longer
intervals (even up to 3 month intervals).
You should also be having PCR's done every 3 months. If you're not
in CCR, then you should have a BMB every 3-6 months until you are,
then once you are, you can stretch those out to every 12-18 months
or even indefinitely, depending on who you speak to. The PCR test
is really the critical test you need to be monitored with if you are
in CCR.
I hope I've answered some of your questions,
Take care,
Tracey

Re: The hospital

2007-10-22 13:27:22

Hi Kathy,
I'm sorry to hear of your on going problems. How frustrated and
scared you must be. Is there any way that they can reverse the by-
pass to give you more of a stomach back?
As for the "traditional" chemotherapy, I suspect that they would be
referring to either Hydrea or Interferon.
Hydrea is a pill that basically kills all types of cells (the good
and the bad). It doesn't target the CML cells so the bottom line is
that the CML doesn't really get treated. What does happen, is that
it reduces your blood counts so that they're not out of control.
This will make you feel better for a while but in the end, the
disease will unfortunately progress.
Interferon is a daily injection and has shown to be effective in a
small group of people (around 15%-20%) but with a high rate of
intolerable side effects, including congestive heart failure.
I hope you find some relief soon.
Take care,
Tracey

The hospital

2007-10-22 05:56:49

Hi everyone. Here's the lastest development. I had to be
hospitalized again yesterday. The Gleevec after having the gastric
bypass 3 months ago has been causing errosions in my new pouch. I
can't take it with food and an 8 ozs of water. My pouch is the size
of a man's thumb. It wasn't an ulcer just my stomach lining being
eaten by the Gleevec. But it continues to cause problems with my
potassium level. I was discharged this afternoon and my potassium
level was and still is in the critical zone. Now I have been told
that I will no longer be allowed to be hooked up at home to a pump
pumping Potassium/Saline into my system to bring it up. If I take a
water pill to get the fluids off my heart (I have congestive heart
disease)and out of my legs, my kidneys work great, but it also causes
my potassium to drop.. Never had a problem in two years of being on 2
water pills and 20 Meq of potassium until just after having the
bypass. Now if I don't take the water pill, it causes the fluid to
retain around my heart, lungs, legs, and my kidneys will only put out
50cc of urine a day. My PCP has given me a choice. I can arrange my
schedule to have 4-6 hours of Potassium pumped into me at the Cancer
center here in town, or move into a nursing home community so that I
can be monitured. I am 52 and do not feel like living in a nursing
home is the solution. Everytime they take the IV out of my port, I
break out in a rash on both hands, arms, up past my elbows. They
break open and staph infection sets in. If I go off the Gleevec, I
will have to go on regular chemo therapy. How will that affect my
potassium problems, and will it cause the leukemia to go into the
next stage? I am so confussed that I don't know what to do. I don't
understand all this, I just know, that I can't keep anything down not
even the potassium pills or powder that is desolved in 4 ozs of
water. If you know anything about the chemo therapy instead of the
pills, besides throwing up more and losing my hair, I would sure like
the answers. Thanks Kathy

low Platelets

2007-10-21 22:25:05

Zavie and group..
As you know I do not post much, but have been in
contact with Zavie once in while.. I though I would
post this in case some of you are having a bit of a
rough time with Gleevec. Over the last few months I
have been on a rollercoster ride with platlets. I have
been as low as 4,000 and after receiving a transfusion
up to a high of 47,000 (Last Tues transfusions number)
It appears that with 400 mil a day of gleevec my
platlets are going down about 5000 every 4 or five
days. Today I saw my Doctor and he was pleased with
my results, saying that he will increase my gleevec to
600 mil a day effective May 1st. Reason for May 1st
He is he going on another conference and will be away.
It appears he is not one bit concerned with platelet
count scheduling me about every three weeks for 4
units. He said I was responding to the aggressive
treatment.
So I guess for those of us who have a wee bit of
trouble with gleevec the norm is to stick with it.
I must admit after the last infusion of platelets I
feel excellent. Still with rash itch puffy eyes but in
great shape for the shape I'm in .
SkipD

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2007-10-21 21:33:14

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Photo - Delta Hotel, Ottawa, March 2006

Re: Gastric Bypass!

2007-10-21 19:42:54

Congrads Amy. Have you noticed any problems with your potassium being
on the Gleevec? The Gleevec is what is tearing up my new pouch and
causing my potassium to bottom out so much. My Oncologist won't allow
me to do the potassium/saline on a pump at night, she prefers I come in
every day for 5 hours and just sit there while it's going in me. Fat
chance of doing that. When I can be doing it while I sleep at home.
To sit in the Cancer Center for 5-6 hours is wasting my time. That
would have to be done on a daily basis. Forget that. Get back to me.
Love ya, and best of everything that is good to you, kathy

Re: [cml 2] Gastric Bypass!

2007-10-21 13:47:21

Good luck Amy......we are rooting for you.
One thing you might consider with the Gleevec, depending on your
dose.........if you are only eating very small meals at a time, then only
take 100mg with each little meal??? go back to the 100mg tablets. I know
people on 400gm that split it into 2 doses. Gleevec has a long 1/2 life, so
as long as you get the full dose into your system, it should not
matter.......especially because you are only maintaining with this drug.
Happy Easter to you also,
Nancy C.

Re: Sorry

2007-10-21 01:24:29

Hi Kathy
It must feel like even your PC is conspiring against you!
I can understand a little of your frustration. When my GP diagnosed
the CML, he referred me to an oncologist and then seemed to wipe his
hands of me. If I go to him with a minor problem he ALWAYS tells me
to rather speak to the oncologist. When I raise it with her, she
always says this is something my GP should be dealing with. I am
convinced that if I went to my GP with a broken leg, he would find a
way to relate it to Gleevec and refer me tothe oncologist! It is
enough to drive a saint mad! It must be worse for you because you
have more health professionals involved than I do but I really do
empathise! Hope you start feeling a little better soon!
Jane

Gastric Bypass!

2007-10-21 00:14:56

Hey everyone! I actually have a date now. May 1st......only two weeks
away. Hopefully I'll feel better and it won't interfere with my
Gleevec at all. I've been on the Gleevec for 3 years now so maybe my
body has adjusted to it enough that it will just stay in routine. I
just want to feel better, if I'm going to live another 20+ years(GOD
willing) thanks to the Gleevec, then I want to be able to LIVE!
WOOHOO. I love you all, thanks for all the support over the last few
years. Zavie you are a God send! I would have been so lost at the
beginning without each of you..........<smile
little lost! Anyway....just really want to say thanks.
Happy Easter
Amy B.

Sorry

2007-10-20 13:02:55

I'm sorry for the post to become 9 of the same thing. My computer
locked up on me and just locked. When I restarted my computer, I
discovered it had posted 9 of the same message. Disregard the last 8.
LOL, thanks, Kathy

HELP, I'm so frustrated

2007-10-20 07:13:14

HI, and I am frustrated that I could chew nails and spit them back
out. Three Dr.'s and no one once to take care of my low potassium
problem. My primary care Dr. feels my gastric bypass Dr. should be
in charge of that, the surgeon thinks my primary care Dr. should take
care of it, and both agree that my Oncologist should take over the
care of it, as it's the Gleevec that keeps causing my potassium to
bottom out. She is not willing to do that, as I have been on the
Gleevec since Sept. that my having the surgery is causing the
problem. My poor cell phone has had to charged four times this
afternoon and I dread the charges racked up. But I never had a
problem with my potassium until I went on the gleevec, I have watery
blisters on the back of my wrists up to my elbows, and with me
working out they become staph infected.
I even called my Mental health dr. because I was so stressed out that
I wanted to throw something, I can't keep any of my pills down,
fluids, my kidneys aren't producing unless I take a water pill, but
it won't stay down either. My legs are so swollen now, that I am
about to commit hairy scary.But they are all passing the buck and I'm
the one being hurt.. What can I do? I called mom long distance and
just cried, a friend thinks I should get a lawyer, frankly I hate
having to change Dr.'s but I may have to if something doesn't happen
soon.I am a danger behind the wheel, as I have a tendency to black
out when it's low. Thanks for letting me vent. I also know throwing
up my two anti-depressants is causing me to go into withdrawals.
That's not helping me a one bit. Any suggestions? Kathy

possible depression

2007-10-20 01:38:04

I have good days and bad days. Yesterday was a bad day. I didn't feel
good about myself. I couldn't wait to get home from work. I cried. I
don't know how I feel anymore. Am I weak, tired, depressed from the
Gleevec. I just don't know. I took a trip this weekend to Michigan to
see my daughter and I cried because of that (missing her), also. I'm
hoping this is just stages that I have to get thru. Today, I'm at work
and seem to be in better spirits. It seems near the end of the work
day is when I start to feel "just not myself".
Needed to talk!
Pam

Parents Sue Soft Drink Cos. Over Benzene/AP

2007-10-19 19:38:33

Parents Sue Soft Drink Cos. Over Benzene
By LIBBY QUAID, AP Food and Farm Writer2 hours, 23 minutes ago
Two soft-drink companies were sued Tuesday by parents complaining that
there might be cancer-causing benzene in kids' drinks.
Attorneys filed class-action lawsuits against the companies in Suffolk
Superior Court in Boston and Leon County Circuit Court in Tallahassee,
Fla. They accused Polar Beverages Inc. and In Zone Brands Inc. of not
taking steps to keep benzene from forming in their beverages.
Benzene, a chemical linked to leukemia, can form in soft drinks
containing two ingredients: Vitamin C, also called ascorbic acid, and
either sodium benzoate or potassium benzoate.
The presence of those ingredients doesn't mean benzene is present.
Scientists say factors such as heat or light exposure can trigger a
reaction that forms benzene in the beverages.
"It's impossible for parents to know which soft drinks are safe and
which contain cancer-causing benzene," said Timothy Newell, one of the
plaintiffs.
Atlanta-based In Zone makes BellyWashers, juice drinks that come in
reusable bottles featuring Spiderman, Hello Kitty, Scooby Doo and
dozens of other well-known characters. Worcester, Mass.-based Polar
Beverages makes fruit-flavored sodas and seltzers as well as mixers.
The lawsuits allege that independent laboratory tests found benzene in
the companies' drinks at levels above the federal drinking-water
limit, which is 5 parts per billion.
Food and Drug Administration sampling from 1995 through 2001 found
similar results in unidentified brands, and FDA is currently doing
more tests. FDA officials maintain there is no safety concern and that
levels are still relatively low compared with other sources of
exposure to benzene.
Likewise, a soft drink industry group argues that the amount of soft
drinks people consume is much less than the amount of tap water they
are exposed to.
"Benzene is ubiquitous to the environment. It's in the air. It's in
dozens of foods, including bananas, meat and eggs," said Kevin Keane,
spokesman for the American Beverage Association, the industry group.
Keane called the lawsuit an attempt by trial lawyers to make money.
In a statement, Polar Beverages president and CEO Ralph D. Crowley Jr.
said all of his company's products are safe.
"Polar is committed to ensuring the safety of our products through
in-depth research and testing," Crowley said. Polar Beverages had an
independent laboratory test its products as recently as February and
no trace of benzene was found, he said.
The plaintiffs ask that companies be prohibited from selling drinks
that may contain benzene in Massachusetts and Florida. They note that
other companies have either removed one of the ingredients or added
ingredients to keep benzene from forming.
Benzene forms naturally in forest fires, gasoline and cigarette smoke,
among other things, and it's widely used industrially to make
plastics, rubber, detergents, drugs and pesticides.
___
On the Net:
Polar Beverages: http://www.polarbev.com/
In Zone Brands Inc.: http://www.inzonebrands.com/bios.htm

FYI: Article: Resistance

2007-10-19 14:17:19

An article for you.
~Jennifer G.
www.cmlsupport.com
======================================
AACR: Agent Shows Value in Gleevec-Resistant CML
By Rabiya Tuma, Ph.D., MedPage Today Staff Writer
Reviewed by Zalman S. Agus, MD; Emeritus Professor at the University of
Pennsylvania School of Medicine.
April 04, 2006
MedPage Today Action Points
Explain to patients who ask that this study suggests that dasatinib, an
investigational BCR-ABL and Src kinase inhibitor, controls chronic and
blast-phase chronic myelogenous leukemia in patients who have resistance
to Gleevec (imatinib mesylate) or are intolerant to it.
This study was published as an abstract and presented orally at a
conference. These data and conclusions should be considered to be
preliminary as they have not yet been reviewed and published in a
peer-reviewed publication.
Review
WASHINGTON, Apr. 3 - Dasatinib, a second generation tyrosine kinase
inhibitor, can control chronic myelogenous leukemia (CML) in patients
resistant to Gleevec (imatinib mesylate) therapy, according to data from
several phase II studies.
The trial results confirm phase 1 data that showed the dual kinase
inhibitor, which inhibits both BCR-ABL and Src kinases, was active when
Gleevec was not, said Charles Sawyers, M.D., of Howard Hughes Medical
Institute and the University of California in Los Angeles.
There are five on-going phase II trials testing dasatinib, which does
not yet have a trade name, in various CML stages. Recruitment for all of
the trials was completed last August 2005, and Dr. Sawyers presented
six-month data from each.
In the chronic phase trial, 186 patients have been treated with the
drug. Ninety have had a complete hematologic remission and 45 a major
cytologic remission (MCyR). Of 107 patients enrolled with accelerated
phase CML, 59 had a complete hematologic remission and 31 a MCyR.
Of 74 with myeloid blast disease, 32 had a complete hematologic
remission and 30 a MCyR. Seventy-eight patients with lymphoid leukemia
have been enrolled. Thirty-five had a complete hematologic responses and
54 a MCyR.
Grade 3 and 4 myelosuppression occurred in 51 to 79% of patients with
CML, and 12% to 18% of patients have had pleural effusions in the
trials.
In the phase I studies, Dr. Sawyers and colleagues found that dasatinib
inhibited most of the mutations in BCR-ABL that rendered the protein
insensitive to Gleevec. Continuing on this line of study, the team
sequenced the BCR-ABL gene in 437 of the 481 patients enrolled in the
trials. Forty-eight percent of them had mutations in the gene at 26
different amino acid positions. Four previously unknown mutations were
isolated.
In an unexpected twist, the team found that some mutations were
sensitive to dasatinib in patients with chronic stage of the disease but
the same mutation rendered patients in blast crisis insensitive to the
drug. Upon closer examination it appeared that the drug partially
suppresses the mutant form of the protein but under the conditions of
blast crisis this partial suppression was no longer adequate to control
the disease, though it was sufficient at an earlier disease stage.
That means physicians may, in the future, need to prescribe drugs based
on specific mutations, not just on protein inhibition, commented José
Baselga, M.D., of the Vall d'Hebron University Hospital in Barcelona,
Spain.
The availability of a second BCR-ABL inhibitor means that researchers
can think about using the two drugs, dasatinib and Gleevec, in
combination to try to suppress the development of mutations that lead to
drug resistance and disease progression, he said..
Already preclinical data indicate that the strategy could work, and that
the drugs have a strong additive activity. "Everyone is quite excited
about combining them upfront," said Dr. Baselga. "It could reduces the
appearance of resistant clones," he added, and prolong the time of drug
response.
Another investigational agent for Gleevec-resistant CML, called
nilotinib (AMN 107), is also in clinical trials
Primary source: ASCO/ASTRO Gastrointestinal Meeting
Source reference:
Sawyers, CL, et al. 2006. Development of the ABL kinase inhibitor
dasatinib (BMS-354825) in imatinib-resistant Philadelphia chromosome
positive leukemias. ASCO/ASTRO Gastrointestinal Meeting.Abstract CP-2.

Re: UPI Version - Too bad they don't FACT CHECK!!!

2007-10-19 12:16:22

As a minimum, I think it behooves the press to use the correct brand
name which is Gleevec in the USA.
Hope the drug does prve effective for these additional cancers!
Christine

UPI Version - Novartis seeks Gleevac OK in 4 cancers

2007-10-19 00:26:25

Novartis seeks Gleevac OK in 4 cancers
NEW YORK, April 10 (UPI) -- Novartis is seeking approval in the United
States and Europe to market cancer drug Gleevac for four additional
cancer
types.
According to a report Monday in the Wall Street Journal, Novartis has
filed
for approval with the Food and Drug Administration and with European
regulators for expanded use of Gleevac to treat a skin cancer known as
dermatofibrosarcoma protuberans; and three blood cancers,
hypereosinophilic
syndrome, systemic mastocytosis and certain types of myeloproliferative
disorders, the WSJ report said.
Gleevac is currently approved to treat chronic myeloid leukemia and a
type
of stomach cancer known as GIST, the report said.
Because the cancers for which Novartis is seeking additional approval
are so
rare, the company was unable to study Gleevac in thousands of patients
as
the FDA normally requires, but instead has submitted data from a series
of
small clinical trials conducted by the Swiss drug company and by
independent
researchers.
Novartis' latest filings reflect a shift in how cancer should be
treated,
based on the belief that there are "hundreds of subgroups of cancer
based
more on genetic makeup than on location," the WSJ reported.
Thus, cancer treatment is starting to emphasize the genetic mutations
involved in a specific cancer case, rather than on the organ in which
the
cancer is located, the report said.

Re: [cml 2] 4 x 100mg tabs vs 1 x 400mg tab

2007-10-18 18:31:02

Hi Jane,
I remember others complaining of more issues when they switched to the
single 400mg tablet. It is the same drug, but maybe it gets into the system
faster???? Also, some side effects develop over time....and some come and
go (cyclic). If this continues and is a problem, you can split the 400mg
pill (mine are scored) and take 1/2 pill at 2 meals. Gleevec has a long 1/2
life and remains in the body for a long time, so as long as you are getting
the full dose daily, most cml specialists say it is OK to do this.
Nancy C.

Novartis completes submissions in US and Europe for Gleevec(R) as treatment for four rare types of cancer

2007-10-18 16:05:26

Subject: Novartis completes submissions in US and Europe for Gleevec(R)
as treatment for four rare types of cancer
Press ReleaseSource: Novartis Pharmaceuticals Corporation
Novartis completes submissions in US and Europe for Gleevec(R) as
treatment
for four rare types of cancer
Monday April 10, 1:15 am ET
* Research program based on Gleevec-sensitive pathways in multiple rare
disorders exemplifies future direction of targeted cancer diagnosis and
treatment
* Regulatory submissions reflect continued commitment to identifying new
therapies for patients with rare diseases who have limited treatment
options
EAST HANOVER, N.J., April 10 /PRNewswire/ -- Novartis announced today
that
it has submitted applications in the United States and Europe for
GleevecR
(imatinib mesylate)* tablets as treatment for four rare types of cancer.
These filings underscore how cancers of different origin and location
can
share common pathways that respond to the same targeted treatment.
"Thanks to the success of targeted therapies like Gleevec, these filings
speak to the fundamental shift that we are seeing in the approach to
cancer
treatments," said Diane Young, Vice President and global head of
Clinical
Development at Novartis Oncology. "One day, cancer may no longer be
classified by site, or even by single genes or proteins, but instead by
the
way in which the cancer is expressed. This could potentially give rise
to
more targeted treatment options such as Gleevec."
Gleevec targets the activity of proteins called tyrosine kinases that
play
important roles within some cancer cells. Gleevec has been shown to
inhibit
the function of the tyrosine kinase Bcr-Abl in Philadelphia-chromosome
positive (Ph+) chronic myeloid leukemia (CML), and the receptor tyrosine
kinase Kit in Kit (CD117)-positive gastrointestinal stromal tumors
(GIST).
Researchers have found that Gleevec also inhibits other receptor
tyrosine
kinases, including platelet-derived growth factor (PDGFR), that have
been
shown to be activated in disease pathways that underlie a number of rare
hematologic diseases, as well as some solid tumors.
The diseases found to have Gleevec-sensitive pathways include the solid
tumor dermatofibrosarcoma protuberans (DFSP), a type of tumor that
begins as
a hard lump found in the skin of the chest, abdomen or leg. Three
hematologic diseases were also found: certain forms of
myeloproliferative
disorders (MPD), diseases in which too many types of certain blood cells
are
made in the bone marrow; hypereosinophilic syndrome (HES), which is
characterized by the persistent overproduction of the white blood cells
eosinophils; and systemic mastocytosis(SM), which is marked by the
presence
of too many mast cells, a certain type of white blood cell. These
diseases
are rare but may be life threatening. For many of the patients who
suffer
from them, no approved treatment is available. Novartis submitted the
marketing applications in Europe and the United States for DFSP and MPD
in
2005, and for SM and HES in 2006.
The submissions are based on a Novartis-sponsored clinical study and
clinical data from trials done by independent medical researchers and
cooperative trial groups demonstrating efficacy and safety of Gleevec in
the
treatment of these different rare diseases.
About Gleevec Tablets
Gleevec (imatinib mesylate) tablets are indicated for the treatment of
newly
diagnosed adult patients with Philadelphia chromosome-positive (Ph+)
chronic
myeloid leukemia (CML) in chronic phase. Follow-up is limited. Gleevec
tablets are also indicated for the treatment of patients with Ph+ CML in
blast crisis, in accelerated phase, or in chronic phase after failure of
interferon-alpha (IFN-alpha) therapy. Gleevec tablets are also indicated
for
the treatment of pediatric patients with Ph+ chronic phase CML whose
disease
has recurred after stem cell transplant or who are resistant to
IFN-alpha
therapy. There are no controlled trials in pediatric patients
demonstrating
a clinical benefit, such as improvement in disease-related symptoms or
increased survival. Gleevec tablets are also indicated for the treatment
of
patients with KIT (CD117)-positive unresectable and/or metastatic
malignant
gastrointestinal stromal tumors. The effectiveness of Gleevec is based
on
objective response rate. There are no controlled trials demonstrating a
clinical benefit, such as improvement in disease-related symptoms or
increased survival.
Important Safety Information(1)
Severe (NCI Grades 3/4) neutropenia (3%-48%), anemia (<1%-42%),
thrombocytopenia (<1%-33%), hemorrhage (1%-19%), fluid retention (eg,
pleural effusion, pulmonary edema, and ascites <1%-8%) and superficial
edema
(1%-6%), musculoskeletal pain (1%-9%), and hepatotoxicity (3%-8%) were
reported among GleevecR recipients. Patients should be weighed and
monitored
regularly for signs and symptoms of edema, which can be serious or
life-threatening. There have also been reports, including fatalities, of
cardiac tamponade, cerebral edema, increased intracranial pressure,
papilledema, and gastrointestinal perforation.
Bullous dermatologic reactions (eg, erythema multiforme and
Stevens-Johnson
syndrome) have also been reported. In some cases, the reaction recurred
upon
rechallenge. Several foreign postmarketing cases note a resolution or
improvement of bullous reaction following dose reduction with or without
supportive care.
Dose adjustments may be necessary due to hepatotoxicity, other
nonhematologic adverse events, or hematologic adverse events. Therapy
with
Gleevec was discontinued for adverse events in 3% to 5% of patients.
Patients with severe hepatic impairment should be treated at a starting
dose
of 300mg/day and should be closely monitored.
Gleevec is metabolized by the CYP3A4 isoenzyme and is an inhibitor of
CYP3A4, CYP2D6, and CYP2C9. Dosage of Gleevec tablets should increase by
at
least 50% and clinical response should be carefully monitored in
patients
receiving Gleevec tablets with a potent CYP3A4 inducer such as rifampin
or
phenytoin. Examples of commonly used drugs that may significantly
interact
with Gleevec include acetaminophen, warfarin, erythromycin, and
phenytoin.
Please see enclosed full prescribing information for other potential
drug
interactions.
For daily dosing of 800mg and above, dosing should be accomplished using
the
400mg tablets to reduce exposure to iron.
Use of Gleevec tablets is contraindicated in patients with
hypersensitivity
to imatinib or to any other component of Gleevec tablets.
Women of childbearing potential should be advised to avoid becoming
pregnant
while taking Gleevec tablets.
Because of the potential for serious adverse reactions in nursing
infants,
women should be advised to avoid breast-feeding while taking Gleevec
tablets.
Common Side Effects of Gleevec Tablets(2)
The majority of the approximately 1700 adult patients who received
Gleevec
in clinical studies experienced adverse events at some time, but most
were
mild to moderate in severity. The most frequently reported adverse
events
were superficial edema (58%-81%), nausea (47%-74%), diarrhea (39%-70%),
muscle cramps (28%-62%), vomiting (21%-58%), rash (36%-53%), fatigue
(30%-53%), musculoskeletal pain (30%-49%), and abdominal pain
(30%-40%).*
Supportive care may help management of most mild-to-moderate adverse
events
so that prescribed dose can be maintained whenever possible.
Gleevec tablets should be taken with food and a large glass of water to
minimize gastrointestinal (GI) irritation. Gleevec tablets should not be
taken with grapefruit juice.
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Re: 4 x 100mg tabs vs 1 x 400mg tab

2007-10-18 05:54:01

Hi Jane,
It's hard to say since you haven't been on Gleevec for very long but
side effects do wax and wane so it just may be that you were "due"
for some side effects and not because you changed from the 4 pills
to the one big pill.
Having said that, many of us did experience a big difference in side
effects between the old capsules and the newer pills when we
switched over.
When I switched from the old 100mg capsules to the newer 100mg
pills, I did notice a difference and then when I switched over to
the one 400mg pill, I also noticed a difference.....mostly with
nausea and a little bit of watery eyes. I find my diarreah much
better on the 400mg pill than it ever was on the 100mg pill or
capsules. As for the cramps, I find no difference from any of the
pill forms. That seems to have more to do with what I eat than
anything else. Some people do get the eye bleeds but that has
happened on all the various pills and it's not something anyone has
with any regularity so it might just have been "your turn" and had
nothing to do with the new pill.
Take care,
Tracey

RE: [cml 2] Update on Tom

2007-10-17 22:52:39

A reminder.

4 x 100mg tabs vs 1 x 400mg tab

2007-10-17 22:29:17

Hi there
This is my 3rd month on Gleevec (4 x 100mg tabs once a day). First 2
months passed without any form of side-effect other than extreme
fatigue. This month, I was supplied with the 400mg tabs and am
experiencing a difference. Again, nothing too drastic or unmanageable
but not like it was. Is it possible that the change in the format of
the medication has made a difference or do you guys think that this
may be a cumalative effect catching up with me?
The things I am experiencing are cramps in my toes and in the long
muscles in my back, a small eye bleed (very small, some gastric
discomfort about an hour after taking the tab.
I would value your opinions.
Thanks
Jane

short vs. tall

2007-10-17 13:46:47

My bmb's at MSKCC have always been done by a small female on a table that
lowers with no problems. I never feel anything but the lidocaine needle which
burns, but does a good job of numbing the area.
Nancy in NY

Gleevec and Ulcers

2007-10-17 04:44:45

Thanks Tracey. I appreciate the information. My oncologist said that
because CML is considered rare, the oncologists don't understand that
much about it, except that Gleevec works great for it. I haven't even
found that much info on the Gleevec on it's side effects. Hopefully, I
will know more this week after I see my various Dr.'s. Kathy

Bone Marrow Biopsies

2007-10-17 02:29:16

Hello, Everyone:
I am sitting here and really chuckling! I mean really laughing!
First of all, today is my 3rd anniversary of being on Gleevec. I
just got my BMB/BMA results back from Oregon (see Dr. Druker---
perhaps now you may know why I am laughing)!! I am still
undetectable and on 300 mg of Gleevec. I am now waiting for the
nested test to come back as they only performed the "nested" test IF
you are undetectable!
So, why am I laughing? I go to the BEST! Dr. Druker. He has the
hardest time doing my BMB/BMA and just told me that I will never be
diagnosed with Osteoporosis! My husband and made a "theory" that
since my blood counts were SO MUCH BETTER, that they made a theory
that my BMB/BMA would be easier to do! WRONG! What normally takes
Dr. Druker 5-10 minutes, takes him 25-35 minutes with me! He has
gotten better with me (more patient) because we have both learned
that if he has just taken him time...they sample will come! He
always has the right spot...when it does not come out, he begins to
doubt himself and the location but realizes after "retouching" he is
in the right spot! We all crack little jokes while it is being done
because, what else can you do? So, laughter is the best medicine.
The worst part is that I am a little sore afterwards and
bruised...aren't we all? But I am in very little discomfort during
the procedure except for the pressure! Do I take medication---
nope...only the zylocaine (or whatever he uses to numb the area---I
just ask Dr. Druker to please add a little extra if he has any more---
he is always accomodating!!!) Dr. Druker is the BEST!!
Zavie is absolutley correct---it is technique! Even if your bones
are hard and the marrow does not ike to cooperate, it boils down to
technique! I woudld give up Tall, Dark and Handsome if I knew that
the BMB/BMA was going to be virtually painless!
The good news for me is that I do not need to have another BMB/BMA
for TWO years because I am undetectable...pending the nested (last
time it came back as a "trace")
So, thank you at your expense for making my three year anniversary a
laughable one!!
Hugs,
Susan Rosenthal
Miami, Florida
DX: January 8, 2003
Began Gleevec 600 mg 4/10/03 (because I needed to get off a
medication)
8/04 reduced Gleevec to 400 mg because of MANY side effects
9/05 reduced Gleevec (by Dr. Druker) to 300 mg because of
Transfusion Dependency!
Today: On Gleevec 300 mg and doing super!

Re: [cml 2] Bone Marrow Biopsies

2007-10-17 00:55:35

Too funny Susan.....and congrats on your great results on 300mg IM.
Dr. Druker has it all!!! he is tall, strong (he told me if he wasn't a
doctor, he would have liked to be a tennis pro).......and he has the
technique down pat.
I met Susan when she was first diagnosed and consulting at MDACC 3 years
ago. I was there for a consult about the new drug (now BMS).....which took
a while to get here. Susan felt like she was getting some conflicting info
at MDACC......so I said if you want to go to who really knows about
Gleevec, see Dr. Druker. Many people do fly across the country, from the
East Coast and down South for consults at OHSU......and from Canada (that's
how I met Zavie).
Susan, I hope you and Bob celebrate your 3 year anniversary of Gleevec
doing something special.
You are a success story.
love, Maui Nanc

Re: [cml 2] CML vaccine clinical trials

2007-10-16 14:45:59

Because CML is mostly thought of as an adult disease, the early trials are
for 18 years and up. I did read a post that said that they were about to
open some BMS trials for children now......when the drug is about to be
approved. A concern with children I think it usually about the dosage, if
it needs to be adjusted. The vaccine trials are new and just beginning.
Nancy C.

Day 35 - Hope out there

2007-10-16 05:09:16

Hi everyone, just got back from my visit to Tim. Had some headaches but
all very manageable. Results up a bit but Tim is confident that all
will get back on track after being off drugs for 3 and a half
months...I just want to give hope to people out there that do suffer
from Gleevec and side effects...speak out and don't put up with it...If
I kept quiet and didn't push and suggest BMS, Tim wouldve just kept
trying AMN as he was so sure that BMS wasn't for me due to side
effects... Day 35 on BMS and doing really well.
Susie Leech
Dx Nov 2002
BMS 35 Days
# 675 Zero Club

Re: [cml 2] CML and ulcers

2007-10-16 04:42:59

Hi Kathy,
I do believe that some people on Gleevec DO have a problem with low
potassium.....so maybe there is a connection?
I hope everything gets better for you soon.
Nancy C.

CML and ulcers

2007-10-15 20:19:31

Hi Amy gave me this link. I was diagnosed last July 7 that I have
CML. I am on Gleevec and my white cells are in normal range. I
recently (3 months ago today) had gastric bypass. I now have an ulcer
in my new pouch, having to be given 2 pints of blood last week,
potassium keeps botttoming out. According to my Oncologist, the
Gleevec doesn't cause these problems. I never had them until I went on
Gleevec. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks, Kathy

Re: CML and ulcers

2007-10-15 18:27:50

Hi Kathy,
Sorry to hear of your problems but welcome to the group anyway.
Gleevec is known to cause low potassium which is also known
as "hypokalemia". If you look at any of the drug information sheets,
you'll see hypokalemia as a side effect.
As for the ulcers, Gleevec is very hard on the stomach, that's one of
the reasons we're told to take it on a full stomach so I wouldn't be
at all surprised if Gleevec was the cause of your ulcer. I don't know
if they would consider an ulcer a "gastrointestinal hemorrhage" but GI
hemorrhages are documented side effects of Gleevec therapy (you can
find that along with the hypokalemia on any prescribing sheet. Here's
one if you're interested:
http://www.pharma.us.novartis.com/product/pi/pdf/gleevec_tabs.pdf
Take care,
Tracey

Update on Tom

2007-10-15 09:26:16

I thought I would send an update on Tom. Tom (17 years old) had a
transplant 5/05/05 at the University of
Minnesota. He has had many complications along the way, but is doing
well now. Here is his website:
http://www.caringbridge.org/wi/tomneddo
He has no Philadelphia chromosomes according to his last BMB. He is
100% donor cells in his marrow. He is BCR/ABL negative according to his
last PCR. He is currently back into "behind the wheel" training and
will try for his license in June. Yikes! He is not going to school (too
many germs) and has homebound instruction 3 days a week. He goes to
physical therapy 3 times a week to build up his strength. If you would
like a detailed story about his transplant experience, you can go to
the website and review the journal history. It is long! Thanks to all
the list mates who have supported him/us through this journey. I still
read the posts.
Barb Neddo,
Mom to Tom, dx CML 8/13/04,
MUD BMT 5/05/05

Drug Plan's Side Effect Is Severe/NYT

2007-10-14 22:20:07

April 8, 2006
Drug Plan's Side Effect Is Severe
By ALEX BERENSON
YEADON, Pa. As a result of the new Medicare drug program, thousands
of people who take pills to fight cancer have suddenly found
themselves with new bills to pay for their essential medicines.
Frances Blue is one of them.
Ms. Blue, a retired teacher, learned five years ago that she had lung
cancer. In December, her doctor decided that her old medicine was not
working and that her best bet would be the cancer drug Tarceva, a
medication from Genentech that costs about $3,000 a month.
A few weeks later, on Jan. 1, the new Medicare Part D program, which
is supposed to help provide prescription drug coverage for people like
Ms. Blue, went into effect.
Ms. Blue says she cannot afford the $3,600 in annual co-payments that
are required before her Part D insurance fully kicks in. And her
income from her teacher's pension and Social Security disability
payments, about $4,000 a month, is too high to qualify for charitable
programs that help patients with drug co-payments.
Now, as her cancer spreads slowly through her lungs, Ms. Blue is
getting no medicine at all. "I've had a month of crying," she said in
an interview in mid-March.
The details of Ms. Blue's case are complex. But from interviews with
doctors, patients, drug makers and charitable foundations, it is
evident that Part D has posed new complications for at least 10,000
Medicare patients who had been getting free cancer medicines directly
from manufacturers, or, in some cases, through special programs run by
insurance companies.
The drugs include Gleevec, for stomach cancer; Thalomid, for multiple
myeloma; and Tarceva. They are all taken orally in pill form, rather
than given by injection like most cancer medicines. Medicare has
always covered injectable drugs given in hospitals or doctors'
officers, but it generally did not cover oral medicines until Part D
began on Jan. 1.
Because the oral cancer drugs cost up to $4,000 a month, more than
most people without coverage can afford, many Medicare patients
received them free through charity programs from the drugs'
manufacturers. Or, like Ms. Blue, they received them through extended
Medicare policies provided by private insurers that charged minimal
co-payments.
But now that the oral cancer drugs are covered by Part D, they are
bound by rules requiring Medicare enrollees to pay $3,600 in
out-of-pocket costs each year.
As the year continues, that proviso could put financial pressure on
millions of Medicare patients. But it is already hitting hard at
patients who take cancer pills, among the most expensive of the
medicines covered by the new program. Patients taking these drugs
often must meet their entire annual co-payment requirement when they
fill their first two prescriptions a daunting prospect for retirees
with limited savings and incomes.
And in many cases, added pressure is coming from drug makers that have
begun restricting their charitable free-drug programs and encouraging
or in some cases, forcing patients to enroll in Part D coverage.
Last year, about 4,500 patients in the United States received Gleevec
free from its maker, Novartis. Not all of those people are eligible
for Medicare. But Debra Freire, the company's director of patient
assistance programs, said Novartis wanted all patients eligible for
Part D to switch to Medicare. Novartis has not set a deadline for the
switch.
Medicare Part D, Ms. Friere said, is "a wonderful opportunity for
patients to gain access to a program that might provide them with
prescription coverage that they might not have had."
Steven Hahn, a spokesman for AARP, the lobbying group for older
Americans, said that once patients work through the upfront
co-payments, sometimes called the doughnut hole, Part D provides
excellent coverage for cancer drugs. But the high initial cost can be
frightening, he said.
"AARP would like to see the elimination of the doughnut hole
altogether," he said.
Leslie V. Norwalk, a deputy administrator for Medicare, acknowledged
that some cancer patients were struggling with the transition to Part
D. But over all, she said, the program has worked well for millions of
people, offering new benefits for patients who might not have
qualified for drug-maker assistance programs.
In addition, low- and middle-income people can get co-pay relief, Ms.
Norwalk said. For patients making less than about $15,000 a year, the
co-pay requirements are lower, and for those making less than $40,000
some charities offer co-payment assistance.
"There are terrific options for every beneficiary," she said.
No firm statistics exist for how many cancer patients are being moved
from free drug programs to Part D. But the number appears to be
between 10,000 and 20,000, according to the drug makers and the
charities that run co-payment programs.
Since Jan. 1, for example, more than 5,000 people have applied for
help with co-payments from the HealthWell Foundation, a Maryland
charity that provides co-pay assistance, according to Krista Zodet,
the foundation's director. Most of these people are in Part D, she said.
Some patients without co-pay relief feel compelled to decline Part D
coverage so they can continue to participate in drug-maker charity
programs.
For example, Maye Navarre, a 79-year-old retiree in Hertford, N.C.,
said she had been receiving free Tarceva from Genentech, its maker,
until she signed up for a Part D program through Blue Cross in
February. When she visited her pharmacy in early March to fill her
Tarceva prescription, she learned the drug would cost her $1,425, not
the $25 her insurance agent had told her to expect.
Ms. Navarre says her only income is $932 a month in Social Security,
and her savings total $4,000 in a money market account.
"I said, 'O.K., pull the plug on me right there,' " Ms. Navarre said.
Ms. Navarre's income is low enough that she should qualify for a
federal subsidy that would essentially eliminate her co-pay
requirement. It is not clear why she was told her co-pay was so high.
The insurance agent who arranged her Blue Cross coverage, David
Parker, did not return calls for comment.
In any case, Ms. Navarre said she had canceled her Part D enrollment
so that she could again get Tarceva free from Genentech. In mid-March,
in response to her pleas, Genentech shipped her another month of
Tarceva free, so she is not out of medicine, she said.
But Genentech warned her that the shipment would be her final free
prescription until Blue Cross and Medicare processed her cancellation,
she said.
"So there I am, in limbo," Ms. Navarre said. "They did send me a free
month's supply, but they said that would be all. I got it on the 14th,
so I have until the 13th of next month."
Genentech provides free medicines to people who do not have insurance
and earn less than $75,000 annually, according to Walter K. Moore, the
company's vice president for government affairs. In 2005, the company
provided $200 million in free medicines to 18,000 patients and donated
$21 million to co-pay assistance programs, he said.
Unlike many drug makers, Genentech has not required Medicare patients
in its free-drugs program to enroll in Part D. But once patients join
Part D, Genentech bars them from participating in the company-run
program, because it does not want to run afoul of Medicare's complex
rules that cover patients who are enrolled in Part D but are also
getting free drugs from manufacturers.
Genentech is aware that some cancer patients in Part D are having
problems affording their co-payments or filling prescriptions, Mr.
Moore said. "We understand that our drug has a significant co-pay, and
we're trying to do something about it," he said. "It's incumbent upon
all of us that are trying to serve these patients to be vigilant and
try to seek out ways to be certain that nobody falls through the cracks."
Still, patients like Ms. Blue seem to be slipping.
Ms. Blue, who lives in a tidy brick house in Yeadon, a suburb a few
miles southwest of Philadelphia, was told she had cancer in her left
lung five years ago. Doctors removed the tumor, but the disease
returned to her right lung in 2002. Despite chemotherapy, the cancer
continued to spread slowly through her lungs, leaving a grim prognosis.
In May 2004, she began taking Iressa, a drug from AstraZeneca. Since
then, her cancer has remained relatively in check. She received the
drug without co-payments through a supplemental Medicare policy
offered by Independence Blue Cross. Although she is under 65 age 59
she is eligible for Medicare because her cancer has left her unable
to work.
In December 2005, her oncologist, Dr. Stephen Shore, decided to switch
her from Iressa to Tarceva. Two clinical trials had cast doubt on
Iressa's effectiveness.
"All the indications were showing that the Iressa wasn't working, that
she wasn't getting any benefit from it," Dr. Shore said. But in
January, Ms. Blue learned her first Tarceva prescription would cost
$2,800 not because she had switched drugs, but because of Part D's
rules requiring co-payments.
While Ms. Blue's income is too high to qualify for co-payment
assistance, she has almost no assets aside from her house. She also
has substantial credit card debt and fears adding to it by spending
$2,800 on Tarceva, she said.
"Who expects to have to come up with a couple of thousand dollars?"
she said.
Dr. Shore said he had expected Ms. Blue to be able to find a way to
get Tarceva through Medicare. If he were certain Tarceva would benefit
her, he would advise her to pay the $2,800, he said. But uncertain
that the drug will help, he does not want to make her spend money for
a drug that may not work.
Dr. Shore said he and his staff found Ms. Blue's case very frustrating.
"We're used to roadblocks," he said. "We're not used to this."

Re: [cml 2] Social Security Disability

2007-10-14 18:41:34

In a message dated 4/7/2006 12:17:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
pmiller789@... writes:
Just curious....has anyone applied for and received Social Security
Disability as a result of CML?
Yes, I have. I received it six months after I applied for Disability due to
diagnosis of CML and horrific side effects of Interferon/ARAC, back in 2001, I
believe. It takes huge amounts of paperwork to fill out, you need to get a
case worker, and get your doctor to sign a statement if required. I was
reading someone else's post, Jackie's I believe, who did the same thing I did.
It
takes six months to receive your first check, from the time you apply and are
accepted. I somehow mistakenly thought that I would receive "back pay"
from the day of diagnosis and was shocked when I was told no, the checks start
only after the six month waiting period.
I want to tell everyone that Social Security implemented a program to help
people like us, people with cancer, to try and get us back into the workforce
if we thought we could handle it, without penalizing our payments. It is
called "Ticket to Work" program. Some states in the US do not participate, but
Massachusetts did. When I received my certificate, I was told to call a case
worker to get "hired" by area companies and corporations that were participating
in this program. Not one company in my area had a position and I was pretty
upset because I had felt well enough to try and work a few days a week, and
was excited that this program would help us feel like we were getting back
into the maintstream of society. The companies were supposed to train you,
work
around your disabling side effects, and give you a job. But as I said, every
place I called said the positions were "filled" which could not have been
possible because my ticket was one of the first issued, as I was told by the
case worker, so I would have been in the front of the list to get a job.
My thought was that the companies took the money from Social Security but
did not employ anyone. So I seriously thought they "scammed" Social Security.
If anyone else has gotten this Ticket to Work, and did find a job, please let
me know. I'd like to find out if one person benefited from the program. -
Lynne A.

Social Security Disability

2007-10-14 17:09:58

Just curious....has anyone applied for and received Social Security
Disability as a result of CML?

A new approach to treating cancer

2007-10-14 07:49:55

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06095/679689-114.stm
A new approach to treating cancer
Wednesday, April 05, 2006
By Amy Dockser Marcus, The Wall Street Journal
Cancer has long been defined by where it is found in the body. Patients
have
breast cancer, prostate cancer, lung cancer.
In a significant shift, researchers are coming to believe that cancer
comprises hundreds of subgroups based more on genetic makeup than
location.
This new thinking means that instead of focusing cancer treatment on
organs,
the emphasis increasingly is going to be on finding the specific genetic
changes driving an individual's cancer and targeting them with drugs.
Some
people who have cancers in different organs may end up taking the same
drugs
because common genetic mutations are involved.
Already, researchers have identified a number of genetic variations,
resulting in some of the most exciting breakthroughs in oncology:
Doctors
now believe that the drugs Tarceva and Iressa work best in a certain
subgroup of patients with lung cancer, Gleevec in particular subtypes of
leukemia and sarcoma patients, and Herceptin in certain breast-cancer
patients. Cancer researchers also continue to announce discoveries of
new
cancer subtypes in liver, brain and prostate cancer, among others.
Such subtyping is a very different approach from the way doctors
currently
classify cancer. In order to make a diagnosis, pathologists examine the
shape and pattern of cells under a microscope, searching for patterns
that
are associated with broad subcategories (such as non-small-cell lung
cancer). But now, researchers are using more sophisticated technologies
to
explore each cancer's unique gene pattern. With advances such as
sequencing
the DNA of a tumor, they can look for changes or mutations that might
then
be targeted with drugs. The goal is to develop tests to identify such
variations in patients, and treat them, no matter what organ the cancer
is
in.
The National Cancer Institute and the National Human Genome Research
Institute, both part of the National Institutes of Health, are spending
$100
million over three years to do a pilot project of the Cancer Genome
Atlas,
which will attempt to characterize genetic mutations in cancer. The
Institute of Medicine just set up a committee to explore clinical
applications of these and other discoveries. The group is expected to
produce a consensus report with recommendations next year.
More trials are opening based on a cancer's genetic subtype -- such as
studies of how a gene known as MGMT may affect response to a treatment
for a
brain cancer. Also, commercial tests are available to identify
mutations,
such as a $975 test from Genzyme Genetics, a division of Genzyme Corp.,
to
see if patients have a genetic mutation that makes them likely to
respond to
Tarceva or Iressa. Different tests are available from the Molecular
Profiling Institute in Phoenix and others. And more are being developed.
The new approach involves a number of challenges. In the case of some of
the
new discoveries, there aren't drugs yet to target the subtypes, meaning
the
new information won't yet make a difference in treatment. The
technologies
that make subtyping possible, such as techniques for examining a
thousand
genes in a cancer all at once, are costly, and it will require large
sums to
get information on every cancer.
There also are concerns that researchers would spend large amounts of
time
and money developing drugs that might help only a small group of people.
Even in more common cancers such as lung cancer or breast cancer, just a
fraction of patients may share common genetic mutations and respond to
drugs
targeted against them.
Some rese